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 Post subject: Re: PG&E Rate Plan selection for EV charging
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:14 pm 
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On E6 the EVs are just killing me between 12AM - 6AM pretty much 30Kw a night at 0.37cent!!!


This happened to me too. I was blissfully unaware there were quotas associated with the E-6 tiers, and just assumed I'd always get $0.15 / kWh between 9 PM and 10 AM. Ooops. The first month with the e-Golf I blew through tier 1 and tier 2 and went from a "real" bill of $50 to $125. Considering I'd been spending no more than $65/month on gasoline, this was a real face-palm moment :(

Fortunately Santa Cruz has several free L2 charging stations, so I'm able to use them once a week to supplement home charging. This has been a huge money saver since I stay within the quotas and pay at worst $0.21 / kWh. My "real" bills are only now $30 more than prior to getting the car, which is about what I expected. However, it's become increasingly a hassle and I'll likely switch to EVA in May when I can look at the true-up amounts.

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 Post subject: Re: PG&E Rate Plan selection for EV charging
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:26 pm 
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I just put my deposit down for solar so hopefully I'll be joining the club soon. After solar, I still plan to stay on E6 as long as I don't hit tier 3 rates mainly because E6 is closed and there's no going back once you leave. If you charge overnight daily or every other day, I think EVA will always be cheaper since the off peak rate is almost four times cheaper than the peak rate. Since I only drive about 150 miles/week it's not as clear cut for me and I'll just need to see how it goes on E6 post solar.

Fortunately, there is a free level 2 charger about a mile away from home. I'm actually beginning to see the same cars there, presumably other people that live in the neighborhood. Even if the spots are occupied, people are respectful and have good etiquette and will plug in your car after they are done charging if you leave it there. With that being said, I do not want to rely on using that charger long term.

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 Post subject: Re: PG&E Rate Plan selection for EV charging
PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:17 am 
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Dont forget E6 goes away completely in 2022 (5 years) and will be replaced with ETOU It totally made sense for us when it was a four tier rate plan but when PG&E changed it to a three tier rate it was still good but of corse our credit dropped then when we added the two EV's it just didn't work. I only see us using the cars more and so our demand will increase too. EVA worked best for us but each person will have different usage so it really needs to be worked out case by case, I think its a shame PG&E do not offer a way to calculate all this for solar customers since they have all the data and we pay them a daily usage fee... I will also watch what the PUC & PG&E do over the years and if a better option comes along I will re crunch the numbers again at that time.

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 Post subject: Re: PG&E Rate Plan selection for EV charging
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:44 am 
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I just read this, but starting this week there will be no more tier 3 and the rates for tiers 1 and 2 will go up 9% and 14% respectively. Lower usage customers will pay slightly more and higher usage customers will pay slightly less. Pure TOU plans are unchanged.

http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/ ... 963682.php

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 Post subject: Re: PG&E Rate Plan selection for EV charging
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:23 pm 
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I believe these changes are for schedule E1

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 Post subject: Re: PG&E Rate Plan selection for EV charging
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:42 am 
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This is a happy tour for me to read on this post. After reading the whole post, we can get solutions to deal with the trouble quickly and safely. Thanks for your nice sharing.


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 Post subject: Re: PG&E Rate Plan selection for EV charging
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:09 pm 
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Glad you enjoyed reading it.

Even though I can't return to E6 I ditched it in favor of EV-A.
It was defiantly the right choice for me.

8KW solar banging all day earning $0.44/ KWh
Nobody home during the day
Charging cars at night @ $0.14/KWh

Don't think I'll ever miss my E6

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