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 Post subject: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:24 am 
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Serious question... The tesla 3 is slowly starting to appear on my roads, the Bolt is now doing 220 miles and it's all over the place, the new Leaf has an option of doing the same range available shortly, probably in reaction to that...

VW (the mothership brand) we know is preparing an onslaught of E-models in the future via Audi, Porsche and VW itself, but.... the Egolf *at best* gets 125 miles of range (in the hands of slow drivers) and barely more power for 2017? No 2018 model announced... Did they give up on the model ?

I know they only sold 4000 of our cars or so, we are definitely driving an experiment - just wondering if I missed an announcement somewhere.... I have another year on my lease, hopefully by then I can grab something in a similar price range with more range...


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 Post subject: Re: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:03 am 
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My thoughts: E-Golf was always a temporary solution for VW while they prepare for their hard core launch of ev's. So yes, I think the e-golf will not be produced within the next few years.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:14 am 
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New dedicated EV platform coming in 2020... the e-golf, GTE and A3 e-Tron were always just stop gaps.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:55 am 
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We were driving back from Tracy, CA to Los Angeles on Jan 5th and saw a truck trailer hauling Tesla's down Interstate 5. There was one model 3 on the whole truck, everything else, 10 or so other cars, were model S or model X Teslas. The 3 seems quite small compared to the other models.


I can get 105 to 115 miles in my 2015 e-Golf, driven on city streets, still, with 15k miles on my battery. Originally, when new, the car would sometimes show 129 to 131 miles of range on the Guess -O - meter during the warmer months of the year, here in So Cal. Now it shows 119 to 122 miles of range. Of course, it was only rated at 83 or 84 miles of range, when new. So, I think that safely, I could see 180 to 190 miles of range out of a new 2017 SEL on a full charge. This would be driving around in an urban setting with Surface street and Blvd traffic speeds only, up to 40 or 45 mph top speed, and driven conservatively in acceleration and throttle applications. All bets go out the window the moment you get on highways or freeways. Range will drop fast, the faster you go on the roads, as well as using more power consumptive goodies inside the car, or driving aggressively.

IMHO, the e-Golfs bread and butter is driving in stop and go urban city traffic, exclusively. That is where it shines, performance wise.

Sales figures are 4232 for 2015, 3937 for 2016, 3534 for 2017 in the USA Source: https://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/

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 Post subject: Re: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:45 am 
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My 2 cents :

I love Tesla. I really love the brand because they started the electric revolution.
But I'll be honest : this is FAR from what we call a quality car ( in Europe at least ).
People buy them because of tax cuts ( Norway ) and because they love electric cars, and MAYBE because of the speed ( maybe, because speeding in Norway can put you in jail so... not so many people are speeding), and the gadgets are cool (autopilot) although not really "needed"; but in any case they are not quality cars.

When I tried the Model S, coming from an eGolf, I was less than impressed.
The leather seats were ok, but those of the eGolf were better. The car felt "fake"/ fragile / of bad conception. Driving the eGolf felt smoother.
I seriously thought "THAT is what I get for 2.5 times the price of my almost fully equipped eGolf ?" .
My eGolf feels like a real car.

Now, again I love the Tesla brand - and actually, I'm quite pissed at Volkswagen for the dieselgate.
And I have a model3 reservation. But I'm not sure I'm going to keep that reservation, I'll see once I try the car.

All this to say that while the model 3 will sell a lot, they are a lot of people like me who prefer "good" brands when it comes to cars.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:23 pm 
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On the plus side, I did read somewhere that VW has added a new shift in e-Golf manufacturing to increase the supply.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:13 pm 
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The 2017 e-Golf finally appeared in Massachusetts last November. I tried ordering the interior/exterior colors I wanted in a 2017 e-Golf a couple weeks ago and was told by the dealership (later confirmed by VW America) that no more orders are being accepted for model year 2017 e-Golfs :-(. That does kind of sound like it is the end of the road for the e-Golf, however I also recently read that in March VW are looking to double the worldwide production of e-Golf from a paltry 35 vehicles/day to 70 vehicles/day. Maybe VW are just writing off the model year 2017 e-Golf as a disaster given that they released it at the same time that everybody else (themselves included) were putting their new 2018 models on the lot.

Sigh, I need a car right now. I want an e-Golf (with the driver's assistance package), none are available, VW won't take my money if I try to order one, and they won't provide any details as to when/if the 2018s are coming. All the VW dealers local to me that sell e-Golfs never return my phone calls and treat the e-Golf like it's just not worth their while to sell. I even tried calling a dealer in Maryland (King VW) who had (still has) the car I wanted in stock and they apparently have zero interest in dealing with me even though I'm prepared to pay to have the car delivered to me in MA. I did a lot of research before deciding on the e-Golf (again, with the driver's assistance package) as my electric car of choice, but everything about finding and buying this thing has been an awful experience. Never had this much trouble buying a car (and I've bought a few in my 60 years on earth)!


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 Post subject: Re: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:55 pm 
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I'd buy a Model 3 sight unseen if it weren't for the long wait of 12-16 months. Elan of all people should understand that that is an eternity in tech. In that time a Model 3 could easily be eclipsed by something far better.

The pure electric E-Tron is rumored to approach Tesla on range, so there's that. There is currently nothing on the market that rivals the eGolf at the semi-premium level. I sure hope VW understands that they have the opportunity to become the world's premier brand for electric vehicles given they have a head start in the market.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:31 am 
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I'd be the same regarding the model 3, but I discovered that, unlike the other Teslas, it's not a hatchback - so that rules it out for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it the end of the road for the E-golf ?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:35 am 
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dustboy wrote:
I'd buy a Model 3 sight unseen if it weren't for the long wait of 12-16 months. Elan of all people should understand that that is an eternity in tech. In that time a Model 3 could easily be eclipsed by something far better.

The pure electric E-Tron is rumored to approach Tesla on range, so there's that. There is currently nothing on the market that rivals the eGolf at the semi-premium level. I sure hope VW understands that they have the opportunity to become the world's premier brand for electric vehicles given they have a head start in the market.


While that is true that a lot can change in 12-16 moths, during that time, Tesla will greatly improve the Model 3 and add new features during that time. Remember, they don't use model years, they improve their cars whenever their is something better available.


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