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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on 2019 Tesla Model 3 and effect on e-Golf pric
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:46 am 
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RonDawg wrote:
Only issue is if the 2019’s are this cheap, they’re not going to offer you that much for an older eGolf, especially a 24 kWH one.


Yep, my trade-in value has probably dropped to around $12-13k at best, vs the $14-15k. With the red stickers, I may be better off just selling on the open market.

I'm probably gonna stop by Sunnyvale this week just to run the numbers, but I see there's similar $8-10k dealer discounts on the Bolt right now. With GM's credits starting phase-out on April 1st, that's probably the smarter deal right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on 2019 Tesla Model 3 and effect on e-Golf pric
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I ended up trading my 2016 SEL e-Golf in early to for a Dual Motor AWD Model 3 in late December. I really enjoyed the e-golf and it validated that I could have an EV be my every day car and that home charging was pratical . With that said, I appreciate the additional freedom and absence of range anxiety that comes with 310 miles of range and the goofy grin I get whenever I go from 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds.

I think the e-golf has a 0-60 time of 9.6 seconds, so a $35k model 3 with 250 miles of range and a 0-60 time of 5.5 seconds is still a pretty darn good bang for your buck in my opinion. I also really enjoy the extra light that comes in the car through the all glass roof in cloudy/rainy Portland. With the Tesla, you also have the potential to improve or upgrade your car over time with things like over the air updates and the ability to purchase enhanced auto pilot features. The Tesla nationwide charging network is also a big plus. Things that I miss about the e-golf are the practicality of it's hatchback style and the very low VW lease payments. I hope VW ends up brining a hatchback EV to the US with a price point that starts in the $25k range. It would go a long way towards helping our society transition to sustainable electric transportation.


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on 2019 Tesla Model 3 and effect on e-Golf pric
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:14 pm 
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From Edmunds:

Total e-Golf Cash $9000 includes:
$1500 E-Golf All Channel Bonus exp. 04/30/2019
$7500 e-Golf VCI Lease Zero Emissions Bonus exp. 04/30/2019

I'm thinking of making the plunge. What do guys think of these "limited" deals:

https://www.sunnyvalevw.com/2019-egolf-lease-offers.htm

https://www.stevenscreekvw.com/special- ... __trashed/


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on 2019 Tesla Model 3 and effect on e-Golf pric
PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:12 am 
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Weird how a California dealer is doing 24 month leases again. Those won't qualify for the state $2500 rebate, nor any many county ones.

Also I found it odd that the lease cost was a more than the $1500 down + $50/mo on my 2016 SE even though the dealer discount was higher. Then remembered interest rates have almost doubled since then. Or, maybe they're including taxes and fees in the money down amount. I find it amazing that California has a pile of laws to protect consumers, but nobody is required to advertise lease fees in plain english.

Still, it's a pretty good offer if the range is adequate. I personally would look at the SEL simply because as someone with a lot of pets and children running around my driveway, parking sensors are becoming a must-have. LED headlights and heatpump nice too. The digital cockpit is pretty cool, but not worth the upgrade on its own.

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Who knows, I may just buy the 2019 SE and put aftermarket LED bulbs in the headlight housings. I hardly ever use the heater, or heated seats. The digital dash, I can take or leave, the analogue one works just fine for me in my 2015 SEL. A little bit of added range would be nice but it's not a necessity for me at this point.

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relius wrote:
From Edmunds:

Total e-Golf Cash $9000 includes:
$1500 E-Golf All Channel Bonus exp. 04/30/2019
$7500 e-Golf VCI Lease Zero Emissions Bonus exp. 04/30/2019

I'm thinking of making the plunge. What do guys think of these "limited" deals:

https://www.sunnyvalevw.com/2019-egolf-lease-offers.htm

https://www.stevenscreekvw.com/special- ... __trashed/


With the $7500 tax credit, upgrading every year for “free” becomes a legitimate strategy financially, and puts more ev’s on the road.

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JoulesThief wrote:
put aftermarket LED bulbs in the headlight housings


The LED headlights one of the most important SEL features for me, so I would agree with this being something to consider. One thing to check before doing this is whether you are absolutely sure the headlight reflectors have the appropriate auto-leveling and focusing equipment to handle high intensity lights. High intensity lights without this are terrible for dazzling other drivers.

You would probably be able to get better results by replacing the whole headlight unit with an LED unit. While I prefer not to make modifications to my vehicles, there are some pretty decent aftermarket options for Golf Mk 7.5 if the LED upgrade is worth it to you. Definitely more expensive than a bulb swap but the results in terms of performance as headlights will be significantly better for both you as the driver, and everyone driving around too.

It might be easier to stick with the SEL trim!

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on 2019 Tesla Model 3 and effect on e-Golf pric
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Been glancing at inventories for Sunnyvale, Stevens Creek, and Capitol VW this week and noticed the SEs are getting snatched up but nobody is touching the SELs. Not super surprising. Even at a sale price of $30k even, they're still a bit overpriced, unless one loves the Digital Cockpit.

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johnnylingo wrote:
Been glancing at inventories for Sunnyvale, Stevens Creek, and Capitol VW this week and noticed the SEs are getting snatched up but nobody is touching the SELs. Not super surprising. Even at a sale price of $30k even, they're still a bit overpriced, unless one loves the Digital Cockpit.
All those standard "options" on an SEL are just ridiculously padded to the price. I just don't think it's worth it.

Especially when VW is talking now of their newer model having a 225 mile range and selling for $30k at the entry level price in 2020. I think I am just going to wait. I don't really care too much what my 2015 SEL is worth, I'm going to give it to my nephew, anyways, so trade in value is moot, to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on 2019 Tesla Model 3 and effect on e-Golf pric
PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:39 am 
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JoulesThief wrote:
johnnylingo wrote:
Been glancing at inventories for Sunnyvale, Stevens Creek, and Capitol VW this week and noticed the SEs are getting snatched up but nobody is touching the SELs. Not super surprising. Even at a sale price of $30k even, they're still a bit overpriced, unless one loves the Digital Cockpit.
All those standard "options" on an SEL are just ridiculously padded to the price. I just don't think it's worth it.

Especially when VW is talking now of their newer model having a 225 mile range and selling for $30k at the entry level price in 2020. I think I am just going to wait. I don't really care too much what my 2015 SEL is worth, I'm going to give it to my nephew, anyways, so trade in value is moot, to me.


If you're talking about the ID/Neo, you haven't been paying attention - we're not getting it in the US, at least not for a while. It's going to be the Crozz (or whatever they end up calling it) first. VW has stated this numerous times.

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