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 Post subject: Re: Looking for recommendations for EV to use as commuter.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:14 pm 
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JoulesThief wrote:
Agreed! Or at least a nail plug kit and a bicycle pump, to at least get you slowly to some sort of source for compressed air to really get the air pressure right. 40 PSI on those tires is tough with a bicycle pump, been there, done that.


I also agree! (And both my e-Golves have tyre plug kits and 12V compressors.) Car is sitting in a detail shop garage getting a paint protection coating done which is where the nail in the tyre was discovered; wheel isn't leaking so I got lucky with the nail plugging the hole. Fingers crossed I'll be able to get it to a tyre repair shop without having to use the tyre plug kit.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for recommendations for EV to use as commuter.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:34 pm 
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Hi Chris,
Chris wrote:
How long is your commute, and do you have access to charging at work? Will the new commuter be used for anything other than commuting? Or do you have (or rent) an ICE for longer trips?
Worth noting, the price of the newest (2019) e-Golfs can be negotiated down to the point where you're paying practically the same amount for it as for a used first generation e-Golf, if you're eligible for the federal credit and if WA has decent incentives (which I'm guessing they do). I got my 2019 SE for $24,000, so after taxes, etc., and the federal rebate (still $7,500 for VW!) and a check from the state of PA ($1,750!), my all-in cost was something like $16,400 (plus my traded-in 2004 Jetta).

My commute is about 30miles round trip. I can charge at work and I do have a L2 at home. We do have an ice for longer trips although after the summer probably we'll sell it and rent when needed.
I like the idea of the new 2019s. They are available in WA state although the best I've seen online is 30K before incentives or talking to the dealer... sounds like in PA and CA there are some pretty good deals going on right now.
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Thank you Johnny,
your insights are very helpful.
johnnylingo wrote:
If you're considering the Kona you might wanna look closely at the Niro.

I did look at those. My heart is set on a BEV... not really interested in PHEVs or in waiting too long. I'm looking to get something next month... I started looking at used ones, but as Chris mentioned new ones are a good deal too.

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Tips for the e-Golf: The biggest thing to be aware of especially with the 2016s is the feature differences between the SE and SEL trims, and that the base SE only had a 3.6 kW L2 charger and didn't do DC fast charging at all. I have a nice little spreadsheet here: https://spaces.hightail.com/space/yZm8Z/files

Wow, that's a great spreadsheet, thank you! I suspected different years had different features, this makes it very clear... interesting surprise the charger size!

Regarding the b-class... There's a specialty shop in Seattle (https://www.paramountmotorsnw.com/) that carries EVs. They have a couple in stock, that's why they caught my eye.

On the i3... sounds like 2017+ are the ones to look for.

Thanks everyone, this is very helpful.
Sounds like either the egolf or the i3 may work for me, now the hunt starts for the best car and deal 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for recommendations for EV to use as commuter.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:46 am 
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KurtManz wrote:
Wow, that's a great spreadsheet, thank you! I suspected different years had different features, this makes it very clear... interesting surprise the charger size!

Regarding the b-class... There's a specialty shop in Seattle (https://www.paramountmotorsnw.com/) that carries EVs. They have a couple in stock, that's why they caught my eye.

On the i3... sounds like 2017+ are the ones to look for.

Thanks everyone, this is very helpful.
Sounds like either the egolf or the i3 may work for me, now the hunt starts for the best car and deal 8-)


We just picked up a 2019 i3. I typically don't buy cars new, but with the 2019 getting an even bigger battery and over $15K under MSRP, plus the Federal Tax rebate, this was a deal I couldn't pass up. It's my wife's daily driver, but I like it quite a bit - not as much as the eGolf though!

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for recommendations for EV to use as commuter.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:58 am 
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KurtManz wrote:
I like the idea of the new 2019s. They are available in WA state although the best I've seen online is 30K before incentives or talking to the dealer.


Yeah so like Chris said down here in the Bay Area you can get an SE for $25k or even less, or an SEL for about $30k until end of April. I imagine you could have it shipped up the coast for around $800. Or, thanks to that 130 mile range and fast charging, driving it up yourself would be doable with an overnight stop in southern Oregon.

KurtManz wrote:
On the i3... sounds like 2017+ are the ones to look for.


Completely depends on range. Bear in mind the REx is an option and a 2015 or 2016 gives you about 75 miles electric and then another 75 on gas @ 40 mpg, but the downside with the REx is it's another thing that can cause problems, going back to the need for warranty. REx will run $2-3k more than BEV on the used market.

The BEVs have been a bit less problematic, and a loaded 2015 should be about the same price as a 2016 e-Golf SEL. Between those two it really comes down to personal preference. The i3 has the roomier cabin and smoother acceleration, the e-Golf is more of a "normal" car and has the 5th seat.

While I love my 2018 i3 REx, I'll admit it's an overpriced car even with the $13k I got off MSRP. If I could do it all over again, would have just traded the 2016 SE for a 2019 SEL and got more electric range for a lot less money.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for recommendations for EV to use as commuter.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:59 pm 
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johnnylingo wrote:
It's the reason I'm somewhat obsessed with having a spare on my next EV.


You know you can add a space saver spare to any eGolf? It's the same one used on Golfs and related cars from the MkV platform onward. I'm using the one that came with my Alltrack (which got a full-size spare instead).

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for recommendations for EV to use as commuter.
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Sorry I should have said "full sized spare". Pretty sure this is possible on the Niro. I am aware the cargo space on the e-Golf can accommodate a 3-4" space saver spare, but with its limited range and lack of fast charger it stays pretty close to home anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for recommendations for EV to use as commuter.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:23 pm 
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johnnylingo wrote:
Sorry I should have said "full sized spare". Pretty sure this is possible on the Niro. I am aware the cargo space on the e-Golf can accommodate a 3-4" space saver spare, but with its limited range and lack of fast charger it stays pretty close to home anyway.


And that's why I swapped in the spare from the Alltrack. It's likely to go far from civilization/cell phone service, so I wanted a full size spare. But the eGolf has barely left Los Angeles County so a donut spare should suffice.

I didn't check underfloor of the Niro at the auto show, but I do know that the 1st gen Soul EV does NOT have any sort of spare tire storage. Even though the tire well from the ICE version is there, the cooling fan for the batteries resides in that spot.

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