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I am getting a 2016 eGolf SE w/Fast Charging. I am new at this so will try to give as much info as possible. The bottom line:

payment 300/month for 36 months
12k miles/year
0 down and 0 drive off (so no downpayment and no TTL)

I wanted to trade in my previous jetta lease which still has 7 months of payments left, however the decided to have me keep my car and they will cut me a check for 1834, total amount of remaining lease payments. Then I would have to go through the return process on my own for my current Jetta lease.

Does this sound like a good deal? Seems a bit convoluted and expensive, the per month price does not include the 2500 CA rebate.

Thank you.
 
No, it is not a good deal for a 2016 SE. Too much. Perhaps for a SEL model, it would be a good deal. But not for an SE
 
I got the same car
12k miles/year
0 down and 0 drive off
36 mo

$234 mo

So you could probably do a bit better.
 
judah8750 said:
I got the same car
12k miles/year
0 down and 0 drive off
36 mo
$234 mo
So you could probably do a bit better.
Just a little.
OP is getting it for $249/month (Because that 1834 'cut check' is just rolled into the next lease)
 
He should be able to do a lot better than that. My wife pays $199 ($213 w/tax, I believe) and that was with nothing more than a signature for the keys. Ours doesn't even have the quick charge package.

Hayward is practically giving SEs away. Wasn't it last month or so they were 50% off? And now they are advertising $39/month without quick charge and $59/month with it. Even if he can't use those figures to bargain harder, he's paying an extra $2-3K than the rest of us in total ownership over the 30 months.

My advice is, since you weren't able to score a fantastic deal during Black Friday or the last weekend of the month, your best chance is to wait for the end of year sales unless you absolutely need a car right now.
 
amiwhatiam1009 said:
jetta lease which still has 7 months of payments left

I would really, really, really recommend waiting. The 2018 e-Golfs will be here in 5-7 months and will have 50% greater range at the same price.

Even if you don't need the extra range, you'll get a much more favorable deal on any remaining 2016 models at that point.
 
bizzle said:
He should be able to do a lot better than that. My wife pays $199 ($213 w/tax, I believe) and that was with nothing more than a signature for the keys. Ours doesn't even have the quick charge package.

Hayward is practically giving SEs away. Wasn't it last month or so they were 50% off? And now they are advertising $39/month without quick charge and $59/month with it. Even if he can't use those figures to bargain harder, he's paying an extra $2-3K than the rest of us in total ownership over the 30 months.

My advice is, since you weren't able to score a fantastic deal during Black Friday or the last weekend of the month, your best chance is to wait for the end of year sales unless you absolutely need a car right now.
Wow Nice Bizzle, 199 for a eGolf with DCFC? for 36 months with 10k? I would've said that was an impossible figure to get.
 
Without quick charge (but we did request the extra wear and tear coverage that we were able to get for $600 if I remember correctly).
 
bizzle said:
Without quick charge (but we did request the extra wear and tear coverage that we were able to get for $600 if I remember correctly).
Have you sometimes wished you could charge at 7.2kwh instead of 3.6kwh? I can usually add 37 to 38 miles at home on a 1 hour charge with my 7.2kwh charger on board, if need be. Helps save time if you are doing a little bit of long distance driving, and need to recharge just enough to get home and use your own charger. I know not everyone considers this a valuable feature, or is willing to pay for it. I've a feeling though, that the 3.6 kwh charger will be phased out, eventually, by VW, perhaps as soon as the 2018 model. I do feel, personally, that 3.6kwh chargers are time hogs at public charging stations, using the location for parking, instead of recharging. Limits of 2 hours would be great, IMHO, at public EVSE's.
 
According to news reports, the upcoming 2017 VW e-Golf with the 35.8 kWh battery pack will only have the 7.2 kW on board charger (to be released in a few months, I suppose), regardless of trim level. As batteries get larger I don't see how it makes sense to ship a car with a 3.6 kW charger as far as convenience and also I suspect the cost of the higher amperage charger hardware is also becoming more inexpensive as production scales increase.
 
JoulesThief said:
bizzle said:
Without quick charge (but we did request the extra wear and tear coverage that we were able to get for $600 if I remember correctly).
Have you sometimes wished you could charge at 7.2kwh instead of 3.6kwh? I can usually add 37 to 38 miles at home on a 1 hour charge with my 7.2kwh charger on board, if need be. Helps save time if you are doing a little bit of long distance driving, and need to recharge just enough to get home and use your own charger. I know not everyone considers this a valuable feature, or is willing to pay for it. I've a feeling though, that the 3.6 kwh charger will be phased out, eventually, by VW, perhaps as soon as the 2018 model. I do feel, personally, that 3.6kwh chargers are time hogs at public charging stations, using the location for parking, instead of recharging. Limits of 2 hours would be great, IMHO, at public EVSE's.
I have not had a use for the 7.2 charger after a year of eGolf ownership with the caveat that we are operating it within relatively unique circumstances. It also wasn't available as a stand-alone option. The cost difference between the SE and the SEL was substantial and my wife and I reasoned we'd use the CarPlay more frequently than the 2015's Quick Charger. Had it been available as an SE option I would have included it and found that I never had a use for it.

The range of the current eGolf only allows us to stay within the valley and there aren't any public chargers here. We have only used public chargers twice, once when we first leased the car to get it home and once when we took it to SD for recalls (both times at the dealer so it charged overnight anyway).

There are public chargers north in the desert but we can't stay overnight there with anyone and being able to charge in four hours instead of 8 doesn't really make it any more practical for us (we'd have to charge it fully because the next stop from those desert chargers is nearly 100 miles).

If the casino near Alpine would put a charge station in there then it would be a completely different situation. I would have included the faster charger and more than likely just gotten a 2016 SEL because it would have gotten us back and forth to SD without issue. Then we'd just use the TDI for LA trips.

With just a bit more range we'll be getting the faster charger next time. Even if we had just an extra 30 miles or so we'd be able to get from our home to SD and have some range to spare to get to somewhere in town and charge it for two hours while we ate or shopped. All of the traveling is on the freeway from the valley whether west or north so that doesn't really help either.

If we were still living in SD (where I grew up), in OC (where my wife and I went to college), or LA (where my wife grew up), we'd be perfectly fine with the current battery size and a faster charger and traveling up and down the coast when we need to visit family on one end or the other. If VW offers us this for a silly price when our lease ends we'll probably keep it for an around town car. Once the battery starts to deteriorate it will no longer be possible to get it out of the valley regardless of how slow I drive until a charge station is built somewhere. The best I can do right now is 120@20A (at that casino) and that's pointless unless you're literally stranded.
 
bizzle said:
JoulesThief said:
bizzle said:
Without quick charge (but we did request the extra wear and tear coverage that we were able to get for $600 if I remember correctly).
Have you sometimes wished you could charge at 7.2kwh instead of 3.6kwh? I can usually add 37 to 38 miles at home on a 1 hour charge with my 7.2kwh charger on board, if need be. Helps save time if you are doing a little bit of long distance driving, and need to recharge just enough to get home and use your own charger. I know not everyone considers this a valuable feature, or is willing to pay for it. I've a feeling though, that the 3.6 kwh charger will be phased out, eventually, by VW, perhaps as soon as the 2018 model. I do feel, personally, that 3.6kwh chargers are time hogs at public charging stations, using the location for parking, instead of recharging. Limits of 2 hours would be great, IMHO, at public EVSE's.
I have not had a use for the 7.2 charger after a year of eGolf ownership with the caveat that we are operating it within relatively unique circumstances. It also wasn't available as a stand-alone option. The cost difference between the SE and the SEL was substantial and my wife and I reasoned we'd use the CarPlay more frequently than the 2015's Quick Charger. Had it been available as an SE option I would have included it and found that I never had a use for it.

The range of the current eGolf only allows us to stay within the valley and there aren't any public chargers here. We have only used public chargers twice, once when we first leased the car to get it home and once when we took it to SD for recalls (both times at the dealer so it charged overnight anyway).

There are public chargers north in the desert but we can't stay overnight there with anyone and being able to charge in four hours instead of 8 doesn't really make it any more practical for us (we'd have to charge it fully because the next stop from those desert chargers is nearly 100 miles).

If the casino near Alpine would put a charge station in there then it would be a completely different situation. I would have included the faster charger and more than likely just gotten a 2016 SEL because it would have gotten us back and forth to SD without issue. Then we'd just use the TDI for LA trips.

With just a bit more range we'll be getting the faster charger next time. Even if we had just an extra 30 miles or so we'd be able to get from our home to SD and have some range to spare to get to somewhere in town and charge it for two hours while we ate or shopped. All of the traveling is on the freeway from the valley whether west or north so that doesn't really help either.

If we were still living in SD (where I grew up), in OC (where my wife and I went to college), or LA (where my wife grew up), we'd be perfectly fine with the current battery size and a faster charger and traveling up and down the coast when we need to visit family on one end or the other. If VW offers us this for a silly price when our lease ends we'll probably keep it for an around town car. Once the battery starts to deteriorate it will no longer be possible to get it out of the valley regardless of how slow I drive until a charge station is built somewhere. The best I can do right now is 120@20A (at that casino) and that's pointless unless you're literally stranded.

Unique circumstances, but you weighed carefully before purchasing it, so in the end, it's all good
 
Just cruising swapalease.com and came up on this.

2015 eGolf SE (Did they make the SE in 2015? I thought it was the LE)

$437.00 a month. 36/12k
OMG

http://www.swapalease.com/lease/details/2015-Volkswagen-e-Golf.aspx?salid=994463

And this guy has a 2016 SE with 48Month? With only 12k miles left on 36 months to go.
And he wants $351/month?

Geez
 
You're correct that only SEL or LE were available as 2015 models. That's an LE (based on the hubcaps in the photo). Maybe swaplease doesn't have "LE" as an option when he created the listing.
 
Interesting link I found on leasehackr

https://imgur.com/a/s0qet

Shows all the residual values for all VW models BUT e-Golf. Does that mean eGolf is a bad buy/lease this month?

And wow, just reading that a person with bad credit can get a VW Alltrack for 15.4% interest on a 72 month. yuck.
 
I don't know if we can assume that from the data shown. The residuals might not be listed because they aren't on that page, because they haven't been calculated yet, or because those are special terms and the eGolf is not part of the dataset.
 
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