Replace J1772 US socket for EU

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njet

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Hi everyone, new user here.

I consider buying a used 2014 SEL e-golf imported from the US. If has DC fast chargin J1772 port in the US spec:

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Living in Poland I have access to J1772 DC fast charging but with EU version of the plug:

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Is there a viable option to change this socket in the car?
 
I don't know about changing it in the car, Message user IVAN who is in EU and seems to know guys who change things.

Otherwise, just get a J1772 to Type 2 Convert for $100 eu.

https://evconnectors.com/Type-2-Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cables-and-Sockets/Type-2-Connectors-16-amp/Type-2-16-amp-Plugs-and-Cables/j1772-to-62196-2-16-amp-plugs-and-cable-dsi-dsiec-ev16p
 
forbin404 said:
I don't know about changing it in the car, Message user IVAN who is in EU and seems to know guys who change things.

Otherwise, just get a J1772 to Type 2 Convert for $100 eu.

https://evconnectors.com/Type-2-Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cables-and-Sockets/Type-2-Connectors-16-amp/Type-2-16-amp-Plugs-and-Cables/j1772-to-62196-2-16-amp-plugs-and-cable-dsi-dsiec-ev16p
The cable above works for AC charging up to 7.2kW. For DC charging, you would have to change the inlet and it will probably need some coding. Changing the inlet is a big job because the harness attached to the inlet goes behind the traction battery, so it has to be removed in order to install the new inlet.
 
So what you're saying is there is no DC fast charging for this import?

AC, with the mentioned cable and optimal conditions should still tak 4 hours to charge.
 
njet said:
So what you're saying is there is no DC fast charging for this import?

AC, with the mentioned cable and optimal conditions should still tak 4 hours to charge.
That's why I said Message IVAN, he's in the EU and knows about modding eGolfs

http://myvwegolf.com/forum/ucp.php?i=pm&mode=compose&action=quotepost&p=13040
 
Is it possible that there are other aspects of the car, like the navigation that won't work properly in Poland?
Wouldn't you save money and trouble by just buying an EU e-Golf?
I've read there a ton of e-Golfs in Norway.
 
njet said:
Hi everyone, new user here.

I consider buying a used 2014 SEL e-golf imported from the US. If has DC fast chargin J1772 port in the US spec:

220px-Type1-ccs.svg.png


Living in Poland I have access to J1772 DC fast charging but with EU version of the plug:

170px-Combo-ccs-eu.svg.png


Is there a viable option to change this socket in the car?

Something is very wrong about your statement... there is no USA 2014 model SEL e-Golf model. It was not introduced until 2015. Secondly, VW recommends DC fast recharging the 2015 e-Golf models "sparingly", because it destroys battery life and longevity giving a passively cooled battery a near full charge in 20 to 30 minutes. Suggest you abort the idea.
 
Hi everyone, thanks for replying.

1. It's 2014, first registered in 2015. AutoDNA VIN confirmed.

2. I've asked the same question on a Polish equivalent of this forum and someone shared this link: http://www.setec-power.com/news/380566 which is exactly what we're after. I've emailed the company and:

The unit price of our ccs 2 to ccs 1 adapter is usd1000. And the production time is about one week.

3. From what I've seen any socket repairs at VW start at €2000 so this $1000 looks more sensible. And it's just replacing the socket out of warrenty. I don't know about changing it to another standard altogether, so this remains a mystery :)

4. As for "Wouldn't it be more sensible to import from Norway/EU" question. Sure, there is 6 e-golfs in the whole Poland at the moment :) I am not a car dealer/importer and frankly don't have time dealing with this.
 
njet said:
Hi everyone, thanks for replying.

1. It's 2014, first registered in 2015. AutoDNA VIN confirmed.

2. I've asked the same question on a Polish equivalent of this forum and someone shared this link: http://www.setec-power.com/news/380566 which is exactly what we're after. I've emailed the company and:

The unit price of our ccs 2 to ccs 1 adapter is usd1000. And the production time is about one week.

3. From what I've seen any socket repairs at VW start at €2000 so this $1000 looks more sensible. And it's just replacing the socket out of warrenty. I don't know about changing it to another standard altogether, so this remains a mystery :)

4. As for "Wouldn't it be more sensible to import from Norway/EU" question. Sure, there is 6 e-golfs in the whole Poland at the moment :) I am not a car dealer/importer and frankly don't have time dealing with this.

There's your sign... VW doesn't want e-Golfs or the service headaches in Poland. Find a way to get an e-Golf from Germany, Netherlands or Denmark to Poland. Be patient. On the other hand, if you don't have time to deal with this, why are you even screwing with getting an e-Golf into Poland? How will you get it serviced, if something goes bad or breaks on it? You haven't thought this through very well.

But if you insist, get the 32 amp cable at 240V https://evconnectors.com/j1772-to-62196-2-32-amp-plugs-and-cable-dsi-dsiec-ev32p The 16 amp cable will take up to 8 hours to recharge, the 32 amp will be max 3 to 4 hours at 240V
 
It looks like you have your solution. I suspect you got this US e-Golf REALLY cheap, so these are minor expenses. Have fun!
 
I did get it cheap and will rely on the VW for service.
I see now that I wasn't clear with the opening post: that car is already in the country and I don't import it personally :)
 
njet said:
I did get it cheap and will rely on the VW for service.
I see now that I wasn't clear with the opening post: that car is already in the country and I don't import it personally :)
Plan on getting it towed to Germany to get it fixed. Just saying... technicians in Poland won't have any training fixing e-golfs with recharging or Drive train issues. We are talking about different countries, not different states in the same country of USA.
 
Thanks for reminding me that Germany is a completely different country :)

E-Golfs are sold officially in Poland from 2015, let's not panic, alright?

I've been called many things, but being right often isn't one of them. I am sure that during my lease I will get back here often :)
 
njet said:
Thanks for reminding me that Germany is a completely different country :)

E-Golfs are sold officially in Poland from 2015, let's not panic, alright?

I've been called many things, but being right often isn't one of them. I am sure that during my lease I will get back here often :)

Congrats on the car! You'll be fine for 240VAC. if you decide to retrofit the socket from a salvage car, see if you can get an auto-scan done of all modules prior to removing that part - having all the soft coding may or may not help with the retrofit.

Cars are like legos, chances are that the socket retrofit would work just fine if you swap or flash all the supporting modules.

A friend in Ukraine is asking for a US-spec e-Golf too, so I'd love to see updates on your adventures in Poland.

Cheers
 
Thanks! I will update as I go. On the Polish ev forum I already found a guy who did that once. Will update if anything happens.
 
I get a lot of messages asking about an update on this thread.

We've sourced a charging cable but turned out the battery side for US e-Golfs uses Audi e-tron like connector. So no plug and play.

Another solution was a CCS conversion cable. Which are now available from at least two sources:
http://www.setec-power.com/news/380566 1k USD last time I checked
https://www.elintacharge.com/en/accessories/ccs-type-1-to-ccs-type-2-fast-charge-adaptor 1k EUR exc. taxes

In the end with the range that my e-Golf has it's quite clearly a city car and I haven't had a real need for CSS charging. So I've dropped this by now.
 
njet said:
In the end with the range that my e-Golf has it's quite clearly a city car and I haven't had a real need for CSS charging. So I've dropped this by now.
I compared different cables with CCS combo 1 and CCS combo 2. The connectors on the wiring side do not differ in appearance. Maybe I'm not looking? Please explain.
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http://85.174.227.122:5000/sharing/noCkr87mR
 
According to the catalog for today the last number (for EU ccs combo 2 PR-ES7)
5GE 971 531 AB

PR-ES0 Without vehicle inlet
PR-ES1 AC vehicle inlet, type 1 (Japan)
PR-ES2 AC vehicle inlet, type 2 (EU)
PR-ES3 AC vehicle inlet, type 2, mode 2-3 (EU)
PR-ES4 AC vehicle inlet (China)
PR-ES5 AC+DC vehicle inlet CHAdeMO (Japan)
PR-ES6 Vehicle inlet Combo 1 (NAR) 7.2 kW
PR-ES7 Vehicle inlet Combo 2 (EU)
PR-ES8 AC+DC vehicle inlet (China)
PR-ES9 AC vehicle inlet, type 1 (NAR)
 
Hello everyone.

Have had troubles to access the forum for a while.

I successfully swapped 2015 US SEL Combo1 to Combo2 harness, all is compatible and bolt_on. You just need the right HV battery charge management module (BD).
 
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