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 Post subject: Missing inventory
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:08 am 
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Hi everyone,

Just joined, first post. I live in Phoenix and have had 2 Focus Electrics, the latter a 2017 that was just declared a total loss by the insurance company. My wife ran over something and it moved the entire subframe back as well as snapped the battery mounts off :cry: At $25k to replace the battery, they ain't fixin it, but the good news is I actually made some money on it and it's time for a new EV.

After a lot of research I'm set on the e-golf and would obviously prefer the 17 for the additional range. I've seen here that some have gotten them for ~$25k+tax before incentives. If I could do that, I'd buy today however, there's almost no inventory out there. I see a few in CA and NY (they don't sell in AZ). Curious why this is, and when we can expect more new inventory (I assume '18s since it's August already)

Appreciate any insights and hope to join the e-golf fam soon!
Jason

*EDIT: Found the answer, surprised it didn't show up in my research sooner. Either way, disappointed. I'll see if I can fanagle some deals on the last remaining new 17's or go with a used 16 SEL.

Maybe a better question is, what can someone realistically expect to pay for an SE given nationwide inventory is less than 10 cars it appears?


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 Post subject: Re: Missing inventory
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:50 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Missing inventory
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:48 am 
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I would recommend you stay away from the 2015 models because charge timing settings are only available with a paid Car-net subscription. The 2016 and 2017 models allow you to set up charge timers, maximum percent charge, etc. from the car's touch screen. If you do buy a 2015, you should have the seller give you a hefty discount for being unable to pamper the battery - charging the battery to 100%, especially in hot climates, is a sure way to speed pack degradation - just read the owner's manual about high temperatures. Remember, the e-Golf pack has no active thermal management system, unlike the Focus EV's battery active liquid cooling system.

Also, there will be no 2018 e-Golf sold in the USA to private owners (one dealer told me all the 2018 e-Golfs have been sold for fleet use). I had this confirmed by two separate VW dealers. You can still get a 2017 e-Golf, as you mentioned. I asked dealers why they are still selling "new" 2017 e-Golfs in August 2018 and was told, that's what VW is providing them. VW has a strategy on selling zero emission vehicles and they aren't making that strategy public right now.

Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: Missing inventory
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:17 pm 
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Best of luck to you, but chances of finding a 2017/2018 e-Golf anytime soon is slim to none. I gave up months ago and ended up with an i3 - a car that's total overkill but does meet all my needs.

Have you looked at the Leafs? Much better design than 1st generation and can't beat the 150+ mile range. There's a national offer right now for $3700 + $219/mo lease or 0% APR on purchase which is the same if not better than you'd get on an e-Golf or Focus. My girlfriend will be trying out my 2016 e-Golf for a couple months and if she needs something with more range, the Leaf would be at the top of my list.

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 Post subject: Re: Missing inventory
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f1geek wrote:
I would recommend you stay away from the 2015 models because charge timing settings are only available with a paid Car-net subscription. The 2016 and 2017 models allow you to set up charge timers, maximum percent charge, etc. from the car's touch screen. If you do buy a 2015, you should have the seller give you a hefty discount for being unable to pamper the battery - charging the battery to 100%, especially in hot climates, is a sure way to speed pack degradation - just read the owner's manual about high temperatures. Remember, the e-Golf pack has no active thermal management system, unlike the Focus EV's battery active liquid cooling system.

Also, there will be no 2018 e-Golf sold in the USA to private owners (one dealer told me all the 2018 e-Golfs have been sold for fleet use). I had this confirmed by two separate VW dealers. You can still get a 2017 e-Golf, as you mentioned. I asked dealers why they are still selling "new" 2017 e-Golfs in August 2018 and was told, that's what VW is providing them. VW has a strategy on selling zero emission vehicles and they aren't making that strategy public right now.

Good luck!


Appreciate all this great info! Backup plan is a used 15 or 16. Don't mean to get too far off topic but is what I'm reading/seeing generally true regarding range being more like 90-100miles on these driving somewhat normally? I swore I wouldn't go back to 76 like I had with the 14 Focus and 83 is cutting it close.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing inventory
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johnnylingo wrote:
Best of luck to you, but chances of finding a 2017/2018 e-Golf anytime soon is slim to none. I gave up months ago and ended up with an i3 - a car that's total overkill but does meet all my needs.

Have you looked at the Leafs? Much better design than 1st generation and can't beat the 150+ mile range. There's a national offer right now for $3700 + $219/mo lease or 0% APR on purchase which is the same if not better than you'd get on an e-Golf or Focus. My girlfriend will be trying out my 2016 e-Golf for a couple months and if she needs something with more range, the Leaf would be at the top of my list.



I'm learning that quickly. Appreciate the tips on the Leaf, and mechanically it's all there - but the aesthetics kill it for me. I'm sure I'll catch flack but for me, a car I own and pay for must be form and function. To each his own.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing inventory
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jaybird wrote:
I'm reading/seeing generally true regarding range being more like 90-100miles on these driving somewhat normally? I swore I wouldn't go back to 76 like I had with the 14 Focus and 83 is cutting it close.


Depends much on driving speed/style and temperature. Last week temps here were mild and traffic was bad on the highways so I took surface roads home and covered 50 miles on 1/2 battery. On the flip side the 2016 SEs don't have a heat pump, and I've experienced ranges as low as 60 miles when driving the highways during the holidays when there's no traffic. Using the heated seats helps bring it more to mid 70s, which is about what I get with moderate A/C use.

I test drove the Focus on a hot summer day and the guess-o-meter knocked 15 miles off the range when A/C was turned on. The e-Golf under similar conditions was more like 10. Can't really rely on the guess-o-meter as a source of truth, but does seem the e-Golf is more efficient than the Focus when it comes to climate control use.

FWIW the e-Golf is a very efficient EV. I've been averaging 4.3 mi/kWh lifetime which equates to 90 miles range. My brand new i3 is 3.6 despite its fancy carbon fiber frame and skinny tires. I get around 100 miles before the REx kicks in, despite the much larger battery. Go figure.

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 Post subject: Re: Missing inventory
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johnnylingo wrote:
jaybird wrote:
I'm reading/seeing generally true regarding range being more like 90-100miles on these driving somewhat normally? I swore I wouldn't go back to 76 like I had with the 14 Focus and 83 is cutting it close.


Depends much on driving speed/style and temperature. Last week temps here were mild and traffic was bad on the highways so I took surface roads home and covered 50 miles on 1/2 battery. On the flip side the 2016 SEs don't have a heat pump, and I've experienced ranges as low as 60 miles when driving the highways during the holidays when there's no traffic. Using the heated seats helps bring it more to mid 70s, which is about what I get with moderate A/C use.

I test drove the Focus on a hot summer day and the guess-o-meter knocked 15 miles off the range when A/C was turned on. The e-Golf under similar conditions was more like 10. Can't really rely on the guess-o-meter as a source of truth, but does seem the e-Golf is more efficient than the Focus when it comes to climate control use.

FWIW the e-Golf is a very efficient EV. I've been averaging 4.3 mi/kWh lifetime which equates to 90 miles range. My brand new i3 is 3.6 despite its fancy carbon fiber frame and skinny tires. I get around 100 miles before the REx kicks in, despite the much larger battery. Go figure.


Good info, thank you. Yes the Focus is not very efficient, which is another thing that drew me to the e-golf. Hard to pass up a 2017 Focus with 3k miles for $16,500 though! The search goes on.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing inventory
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johnnylingo wrote:
jaybird wrote:
I'm reading/seeing generally true regarding range being more like 90-100miles on these driving somewhat normally? I swore I wouldn't go back to 76 like I had with the 14 Focus and 83 is cutting it close.


Depends much on driving speed/style and temperature. Last week temps here were mild and traffic was bad on the highways so I took surface roads home and covered 50 miles on 1/2 battery. On the flip side the 2016 SEs don't have a heat pump, and I've experienced ranges as low as 60 miles when driving the highways during the holidays when there's no traffic. Using the heated seats helps bring it more to mid 70s, which is about what I get with moderate A/C use.

I test drove the Focus on a hot summer day and the guess-o-meter knocked 15 miles off the range when A/C was turned on. The e-Golf under similar conditions was more like 10. Can't really rely on the guess-o-meter as a source of truth, but does seem the e-Golf is more efficient than the Focus when it comes to climate control use.

FWIW the e-Golf is a very efficient EV. I've been averaging 4.3 mi/kWh lifetime which equates to 90 miles range. My brand new i3 is 3.6 despite its fancy carbon fiber frame and skinny tires. I get around 100 miles before the REx kicks in, despite the much larger battery. Go figure.


I drive Blvds and surface streets almost exclusively with my e-Golf, at 40 to 45 honest MPH. I'm at over 6 miles per kWh, sometimes as high as 6.6 miles per kWh. Keep my e-Golf off the freeways and highways, and use it for urban driving. Guess -O - Meter shows 118 miles of range, with the way I drive, with most features turned off, and window cracked. If I turn the A/C on, range drops about 12 to 15 miles, depends on how hot it is outside. We've had a lot of 100 to 106F days since July here.

Keep in mind, I am retired, and I am in no hurry, when I drive. I just try to maintain momentum, and use the regeneration and brakes as little as possible, to time all the lights green. If 83 miles range is cutting it close, don't even bother with an e-Golf. Get something else.

My 2015 is a May 2015 build, last month before they started 2016 production. It also, due to my driving habits, probably has the least amount of recharge cycles on it, per mile driven, of any 2015 or 2016 e-Golf you'll come across, used, because my lifetime Miles per kWh is so high. I've valued efficiency over all other performance measures, in my 2015 SEL. No need to see how fast it is off the line, or how wonderful it corners. It's nothing more than my grocery getter, and around town vehicle.... that's it. When I need more range, I take one of my VW TDI's that gets uber MPG's on diesel fuel.

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