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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:14 pm 
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I was looking at the Kia manual recently and it says to use the DCFC once a day.

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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:57 pm 
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A good table of what words mean vs percentage of time something happens: (these are estimates)

Always - 100%

Frequently - 90%

Usually -80%

Often -70%

Sometimes -50%

Occasionally - 40%

Seldom - 20%

Rarely -10%

Never -0%

Give or take 10%, frequently using DC charging is still much more than 50%, so even using DCFC every other time you charge your car should NOT be considered frequent. Ultimately, lawyers will figure this out...


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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:15 pm 
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forbin404 wrote:
I was looking at the Kia manual recently and it says to use the DCFC once a day.


Could you scan or take a picture of that quote for us and post it up here?

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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:13 pm 
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JoulesThief wrote:
forbin404 wrote:
I was looking at the Kia manual recently and it says to use the DCFC once a day.


Could you scan or take a picture of that quote for us and post it up here?

Located on the main page, not the manual

https://www.kia.com/us/en/content/ev-fa ... g/overview

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Can I "fast charge" my car every day?
Yes, it is safe to fast charge your car once per day at 480 volts. However, to maximize the lifespan of your battery, we recommend Level 2, 240v charging for everyday use.


FYI: A Nice feature on on the Kia Soul EV is that it has a manual Lock Release next to the charger.

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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:35 pm 
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forbin404 wrote:
JoulesThief wrote:
forbin404 wrote:
I was looking at the Kia manual recently and it says to use the DCFC once a day.


Could you scan or take a picture of that quote for us and post it up here?

Located on the main page, not the manual

https://www.kia.com/us/en/content/ev-fa ... g/overview

Quote:
Can I "fast charge" my car every day?
Yes, it is safe to fast charge your car once per day at 480 volts. However, to maximize the lifespan of your battery, we recommend Level 2, 240v charging for everyday use.


FYI: A Nice feature on on the Kia Soul EV is that it has a manual Lock Release next to the charger.


It does NOT say to use DCFC once a day. It says it is safe to fast charge your care once per day at 480V. It is tempered by a "HOWEVER" statement for best use recommendation being level 2, 240V. You DEFINITELY have a reading comprehension problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:00 pm 
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From the Soul EV battery warranty:

"The Lithium-Ion Polymer Battery (“EV Battery”) Capacity warranty coverage period is 10 years or 100,000 miles from the Date of First Service, whichever comes first, for capacity loss below 70% of the original battery capacity. This warranty covers repairs needed to return battery capacity to 70% of original battery capacity. If possible, the EV battery components will be repaired or replaced, and the original EV Battery will be returned to the vehicle. If necessary, the EV Battery will be replaced with either a new or remanufactured Lithium-Ion Polymer Battery. Any repair or replacement made under this Lithium-Ion Polymer
Battery Capacity Coverage may not return your Lithium-Ion Battery to an “as new” condition with the original 100% battery capacity. However, it will
provide the vehicle with an EV Battery capacity of New Vehicle Limited Warranty at least 70% of the original battery capacity. This Lithium-Ion Battery Capacity Coverage is subject to the exclusions listed under the section “What is Not Covered."

Upon reading the "What is not covered" section of the warranty, I found that DC Fast charging use does not invalidate the battery pack warranty coverage.

The Soul EV battery has a better warranty than does the VW e-Golf battery. Also, the Soul EV has active air mediated temperature control for the battery, which is not as good as active liquid temperature control, but it does prolong the life of the battery primarily because high temperatures kill this type of battery.


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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:56 pm 
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Just using your own words at you Joules.

(Only for older VW members - Remember the talk about pushing the mode button while moving?)

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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:15 pm 
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From Kia:

“ The second port is a CHAdeMO port, which is for 480v charging.”

480 V charging is DC Fast Charging.


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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:33 pm 
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I wonder what will be the 'standard' since CCS and Chademo both exist in the US.

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 Post subject: Re: Dc charging questions
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I expect CCS to surpass Chademo in the US based on:

1) the number of manufacturers that support CCS vs. Chademo, and
2) no need to have a second charging port


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