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 Post subject: Re: eGolf Stereo Upgrades
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:39 am 
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Here's a thread on VWVortex from someone who swapped out the infotainment system for the newest CarPlay-capable model. As you'll see, it's a big job!
What I didn't realize until seeing this step by step was that the main part of the system is the SD card reader in the glove box. The screen is just a screen and does not go deep into the dash at all. It makes sense now that I think about it that the CD slot is in the glove box - that's where the deep unit is.

This would have implications for changing the head unit. You wouldn't be looking for a double-DIN unit with a big screen, you'd be looking for a single-DIN 'headless' unit with a separate display...


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 Post subject: Re: eGolf Stereo Upgrades
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:36 am 
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I'm thinking that if a 30 to 35 kw battery comes out in the e-golf in 2017 with a better head unit, my 2015 SEL is going to be up for sale sooner, rather than later.

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 Post subject: Re: eGolf Stereo Upgrades
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:03 pm 
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You're going to need something like this http://maestro.idatalink.com to retain the factory information.
I haven't contacted them to find out when they'll support the eGolf.

http://maestro.idatalink.com/weblink/demo/demo-rr


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 Post subject: Re: eGolf Stereo Upgrades
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:25 pm 
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Yes, I'm reviving a long-dead thread, but I see that as a duty when I have information applicable to a discussion that seems to float to the top of search results despite little or incorrect information. I'm in the US and have a new-to-me 2015 e-Golf SEL with the factory MIB 1 system. I installed an MIB 2 display and head unit briefly to test its functioning yesterday. (I pulled it back out pending a plan for dealing with component protection, and FEC / SWaP concerns.) Car-Net functions still worked fine. I could check my battery status, control HVAC, charging, etc, even with the uncoded, component-protected MIB 2 infotainment module installed in the glove compartment. Experiences may differ elsewhere, but in the US, Car-Net functions are provided by a module that's completely separate from the infotainment system. I suppose that's in-part why early models have Car-Net-only EV features in spite of the infotainment seeming to be completely unaware it's in an EV, save for a different "fuel" icon and the substitution of "mi/kWh" for "MPG".


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 Post subject: Re: eGolf Stereo Upgrades
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:37 am 
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rd7575 wrote:
Yes, I'm reviving a long-dead thread, but I see that as a duty when I have information applicable to a discussion that seems to float to the top of search results despite little or incorrect information. I'm in the US and have a new-to-me 2015 e-Golf SEL with the factory MIB 1 system. I installed an MIB 2 display and head unit briefly to test its functioning yesterday. (I pulled it back out pending a plan for dealing with component protection, and FEC / SWaP concerns.) Car-Net functions still worked fine. I could check my battery status, control HVAC, charging, etc, even with the uncoded, component-protected MIB 2 infotainment module installed in the glove compartment. Experiences may differ elsewhere, but in the US, Car-Net functions are provided by a module that's completely separate from the infotainment system. I suppose that's in-part why early models have Car-Net-only EV features in spite of the infotainment seeming to be completely unaware it's in an EV, save for a different "fuel" icon and the substitution of "mi/kWh" for "MPG".


Where and for how much (if you don't mind me asking) did you acquire the MIB 2 components?

I went down this rabbit hole a while back and my understanding was that you'll NEVER (strong word, I know) legally be able to get the full functionality of the MIB2, specifically CarPlay, because you won't be able to get a license for it. Would love to hear otherwise or if you end up having any success.


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 Post subject: Re: eGolf Stereo Upgrades
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:58 am 
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Spektre wrote:
Where and for how much (if you don't mind me asking) did you acquire the MIB 2 components?

I went down this rabbit hole a while back and my understanding was that you'll NEVER (strong word, I know) legally be able to get the full functionality of the MIB2, specifically CarPlay, because you won't be able to get a license for it. Would love to hear otherwise or if you end up having any success.


I picked up the components used on eBay, save for the Carplay-compatible USB port and harness which I bought new. I did this on a whim without as much thought as it deserved. However, I'm only in for about $400 US so far. (Non-nav, component protection still active)

Carplay (App Connect, really) activation apparently requires a key, which for regular Golfs seems to be part number 5G0054830A. (Another $300 or so.) This part is available only because VW sold App Connect as a separate option in some markets. Since VW never sold bluetooth, nav, and certain other licensed functions as software-only upgrades anywhere (to my knowledge), there are no purchasable keys to activate these. There's conflicting information on which entitlements already associated to an MIB 1 car's VIN in VW's online activation system will carry-over to an MIB 2 retrofit, but everyone seems to be in agreement that the nav entitlement does not. The digest version of this seems to be that there's no use trying to do a "legal" upgrade if you want nav. The only nav option is hacked hardware. For a "legal" upgrade, you might also give up bluetooth and it's unlikely that the Car-Net menu can be made to work as I expect it does on models factory-equipped with MIB 2. However, I feel that my testing suggests the existing Car-Net features would continue to work. (Just as poorly as they do now.)

Obviously, there's an aspect of gambling here. Since I purchased the parts, I've discovered there's an MQB version of the RCD330. I had this Chinese market Carplay-compatible unit in a Passat CC and was relatively happy with it aside from low screen brightness. Life is in the way of any upgrade project for a few weeks, so I'll be pondering whether to proceed with MIB 2 or try the RCD330. The latter, though not component-protected or software-keyed, has it's own trade-offs. Among them are loss of cluster integration, lack of compatibility with stock amplifiers, no electric drivetrain screens, lack of sat radio, and loss of the overhead microphone. (It has an integrated microphone and bluetooth radio.) On the other hand, they're dirt-cheap to the tune of $200 shipped.


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